I decided to finally give KDE 4.1 a try via the new Kubuntu 8.10. Unfortunately, it was a frustrating experience. In a matter of minutes I encountered numerous serious bugs, many of which were related to my multi-monitor setup. It appears that bug reports already exist for the issues I had (see below), so hopefully they'll be fixed soon.
My first issue: upon docking, I hit my Thinkpad's blue "ThinkVantage" button which I have set to run a really handy script to take care of everything I want done. It sets up the wired network, mounts my file server, and runs xrandr to get the multiple desktops set up. In KDE 4.1, kwin crashed. It does this reliably each and every time. I'm not sure how common this problem is, because it seems like one of those issues that if every multi-monitor user (via xrandr) encountered it, the developers would themselves be annoyed enough to fix it.
My workaround was pretty simple, and gave me some hope that I could work through the problems. I simply had my dock script kill plasma (the application which sets up the desktop taskbar, etc), enable the second monitor, and start plasma again. No more crashes; so far so good.
A few more minutes and the annoyances mounted. Plasma wouldn't draw the desktop background or have any "widgets" on my laptop monitor when in dual monitor mode. One annoying workaround here is to create a panel on the new monitor and restart KDE. Then on single-monitor mode, you have two panels.
This is amongst numerous crashes. Plasma would crash if I turned off the setting for view hidden files while searching for a background wallpaper. Kontact would crash fairly frequently, but I didn't spend much time seeing what was reproducible. One of my most-used features in 3.5 was in-line editing of the TODO list. This doesn't appear to be implemented in the KDE4 version of KDE-PIM.
I should mention the good: the desktop was beautiful, most of the applications I wanted have been ported (amarok will be soon). The direction of KDE looks very good; the default desktop setup is far superior in appearance and functionality to KDE 3.5. Desktop effects actually work, and aren't horribly slow. If I didn't value snappiness so much, I would actually use them.
In the end, though, the crashes and the broken multiple-desktop behavior was too much. Rather than spend more time trying to find workarounds, I looked some of the more annoying behavior to ensure that a bug report was already filed; then I installed KDE 3.5 and Kubuntu 8.04 again. KDE 4.1 has definite promise, but some things (like scrolling and text entry) were noticeably worse than 3.5. The frequent crashes of kontact, kwin, and plasma were really the deciding factor. I hate to say it (as a huge KDE fan), but 4.1 still feels like beta software, at least in my multi-monitor laptop config.
I'll give it another try in 6 months with Kubuntu 9.04 and KDE 4.2.
Nov 01, 2008
My first issue: upon docking, I hit my Thinkpad's blue "ThinkVantage" button which I have set to run a really handy script to take care of everything I want done. It sets up the wired network, mounts my file server, and runs xrandr to get the multiple desktops set up. In KDE 4.1, kwin crashed. It does this reliably each and every time. I'm not sure how common this problem is, because it seems like one of those issues that if every multi-monitor user (via xrandr) encountered it, the developers would themselves be annoyed enough to fix it.
My workaround was pretty simple, and gave me some hope that I could work through the problems. I simply had my dock script kill plasma (the application which sets up the desktop taskbar, etc), enable the second monitor, and start plasma again. No more crashes; so far so good.
A few more minutes and the annoyances mounted. Plasma wouldn't draw the desktop background or have any "widgets" on my laptop monitor when in dual monitor mode. One annoying workaround here is to create a panel on the new monitor and restart KDE. Then on single-monitor mode, you have two panels.
This is amongst numerous crashes. Plasma would crash if I turned off the setting for view hidden files while searching for a background wallpaper. Kontact would crash fairly frequently, but I didn't spend much time seeing what was reproducible. One of my most-used features in 3.5 was in-line editing of the TODO list. This doesn't appear to be implemented in the KDE4 version of KDE-PIM.
I should mention the good: the desktop was beautiful, most of the applications I wanted have been ported (amarok will be soon). The direction of KDE looks very good; the default desktop setup is far superior in appearance and functionality to KDE 3.5. Desktop effects actually work, and aren't horribly slow. If I didn't value snappiness so much, I would actually use them.
In the end, though, the crashes and the broken multiple-desktop behavior was too much. Rather than spend more time trying to find workarounds, I looked some of the more annoying behavior to ensure that a bug report was already filed; then I installed KDE 3.5 and Kubuntu 8.04 again. KDE 4.1 has definite promise, but some things (like scrolling and text entry) were noticeably worse than 3.5. The frequent crashes of kontact, kwin, and plasma were really the deciding factor. I hate to say it (as a huge KDE fan), but 4.1 still feels like beta software, at least in my multi-monitor laptop config.
I'll give it another try in 6 months with Kubuntu 9.04 and KDE 4.2.
